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Demetrius Williams v. Erik Michalsen — 7th Cir. (argued September 15, 2026)

No. 25-3287 Argued September 15, 2026 Published September 16, 2026

The Seventh Circuit hears Demetrius Williams v. Erik Michalsen. In May 2018, Williams and John Patterson, two Black Milwaukee pastors, were returning from fishing when a tire on their boat trailer went flat. They pulled fully onto I-94's shoulder, called for a tow, and waited. They allege Deputy Erik Michalsen asked about guns and drugs, insisted on both men's licenses, and kept them for warrant checks during the roughly fifteen-minute encounter. They sued under Section 1983, which allows claims against state or local officials for violating federal rights, alleging unreasonable seizure and race discrimination. The district court granted the defendants summary judgment, holding that no reasonable jury could find a seizure or a sufficiently similar white motorist treated differently. The appeal asks whether disputed evidence required a jury trial and whether qualified immunity independently protects the defendants.

Demetrius Williams v. Erik Michalsen (No. 25-3287) — U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, argued September 15, 2026.

Sources
Argument audio — U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit (public domain, 17 U.S.C. § 105):https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ch.25-3287.25-3287_09_15_2026.mp3
Argument listing — U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit:https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/oralArguments/oar.jsp?amonth=09%2F2026&aMonth=List+case%28s%29
Complaint — E.D. Wisconsin filing hosted by Gingras, Thomsen & Wachs:https://www.gtwlawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/MinisterCaseComplaint.pdf
Mark L. Thomsen — Gingras, Thomsen & Wachs:https://gtwlawyers.com/wisconsin-attorneys/
Samuel C. Hall Jr. — Crivello, Nichols & Hall:https://www.crivellolaw.com/people/samuel-c-hall-jr/

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